iRunFar: 2014 Chuckanut 50k Preview

2014 Chuckanut 50k Preview

March 11, 2014 by · Comments (6)

Chuckanut 50kThe 22nd annual running of the Chuckanut 50k, a long-time, early-season proving ground, will take place this Saturday, March 15 at 8 a.m. Pacific Daylight Time in Fairhaven, Washington. A smooth start and finish trail futilely tries to mask what this race is known for, a 30k stretch of climbing, running around the top of, and descending Chuckanut Mountain Ridge, which amounts to about 5,000 feet of climbing. Directed by Krissy Moehl, the race will be stocked with good food, beautiful scenery, some Pacific Northwest mud, and fierce competition.

Men’s Preview- 2014 Chuckanut 50k

Returning champion and course-record holder David Laney (Nike) is a favorite for the win. He’s got last year’s win under his belt as well as a fantastic year of racing in 2013 and a good start to 2014. He’s the 2013 Waldo 100k winner and he finished second at the 2014 Bandera 100k.

Max King

Max King (Montrail) placed second at Chuckanut last year, just shy of three minutes behind David Laney. However, Max loves to race and he’d just won Way Too Cool 50k the weekend before last year’s Chuckanut. This year, look for a better-rested King in the battle for the W. In the past year, Max’s best ultra results have probably been his third at the Lake Sonoma 50 Mile and fourth at Speedgoat 50k. In the last year, he’s also done battle with–and seemingly conquered–a bum ankle. Interestingly, Max has been experimenting with obstacle-course racing and, a couple weekends ago, he came second in the Atlas Race, an obstacle-course race in SoCal.

We can’t wait to watch Mario Mendoza (Nike) race his weekend. He’s coming off a 2013 so good he was named USATF Trail Runner of the Year. The honor was given to him because of his win at the USATF 10k Trail Championships and second place at the USATF 50k Trail Championships, as well as a long list of more 2013 wins including the Peterson Ridge Rumble 20 Mile, the Dirty Half, and the Angels Staircase 60k. [Update 3/14: Mario Mendoza has decided not to race this weekend. Instead, he’s placing his focus on the Lake Sonoma 50 in a month.]

Adam Campbell 2012 Chuckanut 50k

Adam Campbell (Arc’teryx/Salomon) was the 2012 Chuckanut champion (post-race interview, race report). Not racing Chuckanut in 2013 may be all the motivation Adam needs to reclaim his first-place status on Saturday, especially because he sat out some of 2013 with a bad ankle. In 2013, after recovering from his injury, Adam excelled with a win at the Squamish 50 Mile and a second place at the Meet Your Maker 50 Mile. Having not raced yet this year, Campbell should be ready to go, joining or even leading the top of this pack over Chuckanut Mountain Ridge.

Max Ferguson was the third finisher last year at Chuckanut. Since then, he’s gone on to a respective first, second, and first at the 2013 Yakima Skyline Rim 50k, the 2013 White River 50 Mile, and the 2013 Bellingham Trail Marathon.

Dan Kraft

Daniel Kraft (Nike) is returning to the Chuckanut trails, looking to better his fourth place from 2013. Daniel seems to be getting better by the minute. In 2013, he also won the Lithia Loop Trail Marathon before really breaking onto the scene with a fourth-place finish at The North Face Endurance Challenge 50 Mile Championships in December. Kraft may be closer to the heels of Laney and King than they are comfortable with.

Ryan Ghelfi (Nike) brings a solid 2013 resume to Saturday’s starting line, including ninth at Lake Sonoma 50 Mile, fifth at the UROC 100k and 10th at the TNF EC 50 Mile.

Yassine Diboun (Inov-8) is another strong runner to look for. In January, he finished fourth at the brutal HURT 100 Mile. His best 2013 finishes were probably his fifth at the Cayuga Trail 50 Mile and ninth at Western States.

It’s kind of crazy to put him at the bottom of our preview because Ryan Bak’s (SCOTT) got the legs to win this race. The former track and cross-country runner has a 2:14 marathon PR and some success so far on the trails. Problem is, he’s been fighting for a long time with an Achilles injury. It seems he’s been on a roll with good training again lately, but he’s also a new father, so he might be a little sleep deprived on Saturday’s starting line.

Women’s Preview- 2014 Chuckanut 50k

Jodee Adams-Moore

Jodee Adams-Moore (SCOTT) is the Chuckanut 50k returning champion and the favorite for Saturday. Last year she ran an insane 4:01:23, which set a new course record by more than eight minutes. That old record, held by Ellie Greenwood, was previously thought to be pretty hard and fast. In doing so last year, she also finished 10th overall, beating out some seriously fast men. Jodee races almost exclusively in Washington state, annihilating the field of whatever race she enters. Last year she branched out to run Speedgoat 50k in Utah, finishing second and a minute behind Stephanie Howe. And last month she won the 2014 Moab Red Hot 55k, also in Utah. We’d sure love to see this woman race more outside the Pacific Northwest, and we hear international racing might even be in her 2014 plans.

There are just two women who have beat Jodee Adams-Moore in ultrarunning, and one is Stephanie Howe (The North Face) at last year’s Speedgoat 50k. In the last year, Stephanie had three super-solid performances, a course record at the Gorge Waterfalls 50k, her Speedgoat win, and second at the UROC 100k (post-race interview). But in between those races, Stephanie’s running was peppered with injury. She’s got a renewed plan for health in 2014, and she’s turned down racing over the last couple months so that she can have an off-season. History has proven that a well-rested Stephanie is a dangerous machine.

Ellie Greenwood - Haggin Cup

Ellie Greenwood (Montrail) is the other woman who has bested Jodee Adams-Moore, and that was at the 2012 Chuckanut 50k where Ellie and Jodee went one, two (post-race interview, race report). It’s been about a year since Ellie’s raced an ultra, so we want to rewind to 2012 for a moment. Ellie’s 2012 was absolutely insane: win at Chuckanut 50k, win at the American River 50 Mile, second at the Comrades Marathon, win/resetting the revered course record at Western States (post-race interview, race report), win at White River 50 Mile, win at Squamish 50 Mile, win at the CCC (a UTMB sister race) (post-race interview), win at UROC 100k (post-race interview), and a win/course record at the JFK 50 Mile (race report). Her efforts earned her UltraRunning magazine’s 2012 Ultrarunner of the Year award. Then Ellie spent much of 2013 injured. Chuckanut is her first ultra back since her year-long bout with injury, and it’ll be fascinating to see how much of her form she’s retained.

Becka Kem (Pearl Izumi) will be another top contender in the women’s race. With a string of first-place accolades in trail races around the Pacific Northwest, Becka usually finishes unchallenged by the rest of the women’s field. We think the only exception to this might have been the 2012 Lithia Loop Trail Marathon, where Becka finished just a half minute or so ahead of Rory Bosio. Finishing off last year with a 3:09:17 win at the 2013 Lithia Loop Trail Marathon in Oregon, she will be one to watch as she competes with women on the trails instead of just in front of them.

2013 Leadville 100 - Ashley Arnold

Ashley Arnold (The North Face), 2013 Leadville 100 winner, will be competing in her first Chuckanut this weekend. An all-around strong distance runner who also won the 2013 White River 50 Mile and came 11th at the 2013 The North Face Endurance Challenge 50 Mile Championships, Arnold’s combined skills of endurance and speed will likely place her among the top five on Saturday. [Update 3/11: We just heard that Ashley Arnold won’t race Chuckanut this weekend as she’s running The North Face Endurance Challenge Argentina 80k in a couple weekends.]

Now Trisha Steidl’s name is a fascinating one to see on the Chuckanut start list. A former rower turned runner, she’s wife to elite road and trail runner Uli Steidl and a the track and cross-country coach at Seattle University in Washington. She’s got fast running history on the roads and trails, including a 2:48 marathon PR and a second place at the 2003 USATF 50 Mile Trail Championships. She’s a three-time winner of the Seattle Marathon and most of her trail racing of late has been of sub-marathon distances. We can’t wait to see where she lands in this women’s field.

Melanie Bos (The North Face) was fifth at the 2012 Chuckanut and sixth woman last year. This past December, Melanie ran to ninth place at the uber-stacked TNF EC 50 Mile. Though she had to drop due to medical issues at the 2014 HURT 100 in January, Bos will be toeing the line this Saturday hopefully recovered and injury-free.

Gina Lucrezi (Salomon) is another speedy runner specializing in 50k’s and sub-ultra-distance races. Placing 14th at the TNF EC 50 Mile, Lucrezi may not be as close to the lead runner, but a top-10 finish will definitely be in sight for her.

Call for Comments (from Meghan)

  • First things first, does it look to anyone else that the women’s race is as stacked at the men’s? Holy fast women!
  • Who do you think will win the women’s and men’s races? And how close do you think the finish will be?
  • Who will surprise us with a super-strong performance?
  • Is there someone else who should be on these lists? And do you know about the fitness and preparations of anyone we’ve described? If so, let us know!
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iRunFar.com: WeRunFar Profile: Dick Canterbury

WeRunFar Profile: Dick Canterbury

Dick Canterbury walks into the coffee shop and sets a large black binder on the table. Inside is a list, spreading over numerous worn-out pages, covered in fading pencil lead. The entries are chronologically scribbled:

  • November 1988: Columbus Marathon 3:26
  • June 2003: Western States 100 29:28
  • January 24, 2014: Liberty Bible Church, nine miles
  • And the latest race entry: February 2014: Rocky Raccoon 100, 27:46

Dick Canterbury - 2013 Midwest Slam

At 66 years old, Dick Canterbury is no different than he was 26 years ago when he first started running except that he has a few more race shirts to don while around town.

In 1988, when he was 40 years old, Dick was introduced to the sport of running while living in Columbus, Ohio, where he was raised. In 1994, his family, now with the addition of two children and his wife, Becky, moved to their present home in Chesterton, Indiana, where Dick found himself entering into the ultra world.

Dick completed his first ultramarathon in 1996 at the Ice Age Trail 50 Mile in Wisconsin when he was 48 years old. Today, 114 marathons and over 66 ultras, 26 of which have been 100s, are evidenced in that thick black book, along with every training run, shoe type, and location. It is the running chronicle of Dick Canterbury, and it is not even close to being done.

In the small town of Chesterton, Dick is well known to all who lace up their running shoes every weekend. To many, he is like the father figure for northwest Indiana running, the one to scurry to for advice on training or insights on a certain race. But to Dick, he sees himself simply as the only one in the area who has remained in the sport. “I was the youngster in the ultra world, the baby, when I moved here,” he says, chuckling. “Now, I am the only individual continuing to run ultras from the group I started with.” When first arriving to the area, Dick ran with some of the local runners, including author and Runner’s World-acclaimed writer, Hal Higdon, who introduced him to the trails of the Indiana Dunes National Lakeshore.

Misty Chandos, a fellow ultrarunner, said Dick works with and mentors for the No Boundaries Beginner program through the Fleet Feet store in Schererville, Indiana, which is how she met him. “I was looking for someone who knows the Dunes well to lead a group of runners on weekend runs. He is quiet, but is so knowledgeable. He is so inspiring to people, and he really wants to help those who are just beginning to run.” According to Chandos, Dick was running ultramarathons before they were the craze they are now, crediting Dick with the reason why ultras have become so popular in the area.

And it’s true. Every weekend, a license plate stamped with the words ‘Runs 100’ slides into the parking lot filled with several other cars with running-related decals. Dick, a member of the northwest Indiana running group, the Midwest Ultra Runners, stands at the edge of the trail along with various members of the five other running groups of the area. Adjusting shoelaces and fixing watches, Dick stands out with white hair poking out of his black, cotton hat, a snow-white beard, an age difference of about 30 or 40 years, and a race resume long enough to cover the six-mile trail the runners are about to embark on.

Dick Canterbury with vest

Dick ran his first 100-mile race at the Mohican 100 Mile race in Ohio in 1999. “At the finish line, I said I was never going to do that again, and probably before I got home, I was thinking about what I needed to do to improve for the next one.” Since then, Dick has remained true to the Mohican race, finishing 12 of them, earning himself a special belt buckle and a free entry for life. Yet, that does not beat his 14–time return to his favorite race, the Ice Age 50.

Obviously, repetition does not hinder Dick, who devotedly competes in Midwest-located races. In 2013, Dick completed his first attempt of the Midwest Grand Slam of Ultrarunning, which includes the Kettle Moraine 100 Mile in Wisconsin in June, the Mohican 100 two weeks later, Burning River 100 Mile Endurance Run in Ohio in July, and the Hallucination 100-Mile in Michigan in September. “There were 14 finishers,” he said. “When you see the same people at the same events, it encourages you to keep going. It is like a little family get-together each time.”

According to Dick, the Midwest Grand Slam is easier than the commonly known Grand Slam Of Ultrarunning out West due to its flatter race terrains and a less competitive entry process into the races. Yet, Dick ‘adjusted’ the 2013 series to suit his liking. New to 2013 Slam was the inaugural Indiana Trail 100 in Albion, Indiana. The April race was added into the series, but was not a required event to complete the Slam.

“I completed the Indiana Trail 100, so I completed what is known as grand slamming. There were only four of us who ran it out of the 14 who finished the Slam.”

Though it came with its struggles, travel, time spent away from his family, and plenty of money spent on entry fees, Dick regards the Slam experience as his “most measured achievement he has ever accomplished.”

“It sounded like a challenge and felt that if I didn’t do it when I was 65, I never would. So many things went right. No injuries, illnesses, or deaths in the family that kept me from recovering.”

“One of the most amazing things I find about the human brain is how fast it forgets about pain and discomfort,” says Dick.

“He is one of the toughest people mentally that I have ever met,” says Norm Williams, a friend and frequent pacer of Dick’s. “Somebody once told Dick to never get old, and that seems to be his outlook. He’s very focused when he races, no matter what the conditions or terrain are. He is relaxed and stays steadily focused.”

Well, most of the time. Like most ultrarunners staggering through the dark depths of the last 20 miles of race, ‘focus’ is a struggle. “Last year during the Kettle Moraine, he walked into a tree,” Williams remembers. “After hitting it, Dick said, ‘Norm, I saw the tree but I walked right into it!’”

Williams and Dick have spent many long hours on the trails together, discussing everything from T.V. shows to Dick’s latest update on his gun club. During a race, aid stations are an out-and-go process, and walking is strongly relied upon for finishing a race. Dick will typically run hard the first 50 to 60 miles of a race, and will then incorporate a walk/run strategy, or sometimes just walking, the rest of the race into the finish line. “I am not running fast,” Dick explains, finally releasing the secret to his ultra success. “Time is not important; speed is not important; I am just accomplishing the race.”

Dick Canterbury - running away

However, when placed in a marathon, Dick’s ageless legs still seek speed. Before, after, and in between the Midwest Slam, he cruised through two 50ks, another Ice Age race, and a 24-hour run held in northwest Indiana. And after the last Midwest Slam event, Dick participated in an additional five marathons concluding the year with 3,200 miles and a total of 19 races overall.

Of those, Dick was a returning pacer for the Chicago Marathon, along with participating in the inaugural Dawn of the Dunes Marathon in Gary, Indiana, where he finished in a time of 3:34:29, a time well below his age standard for Boston qualification. Though not a fan of 5ks and 10ks, in which he could count on one hand the number of times he’s raced them, Dick looks upon marathon racing with one more goal in mind.

In September, after the Midwest Grand Slam, Dick was adamant about not repeating the daunting event. He was thinking about taking a break from ultras for awhile to see what he could do in a marathon, thinking about attempting to lower his just-raced, 3:34 time, and coming as close as possible to his 1996 personal record of 3:03 in future marathons. But, of course, the lure of the trails could not be ignored.

Although each one, the Slam and fast marathon training, is a highly crazy and difficult endeavor, a new challenge was already forming in Dick’s mind that surpassed them both.

On February 1, Dick ran his first ultra of the year, the Rocky Raccoon 100 Mile and initiated the start of his 2014 plan. “I signed up for it [the Midwest Grand Slam] at the end of last year,” Dick recounts. “And I thought, Well, five 100s at 65 years old, that’s pretty good. So I decided to enter at 66 years old and try six.”

Dick Canterbury - Indiana 100

How does he do it? It is a question asked by many, but to Dick, the answer is simple. “I like to challenge myself. That is why I keep pushing myself to do ultras. I just enjoy them and want to continue to do them as long as I can.” Dick runs for every reason in the book, yet pinpoints it to his goal of inspiring and encouraging other runners, emitting some of that father-like personality.

“I like to see if I can inspire people, and knowing that I have been an encouragement to so many in this area has meant a lot to me. Hopefully, some younger runners will see me running and say, ‘If that old man can go out and do it, then so can I!’”

Call for Comments (from Meghan)
Okay Midwest trail runners, we’re eager to hear your Dick Canterbury stories. Have you met or run with Dick at a running event or race? What did you learn about this Indianan ultrarunner who keeps running and running?

iRunFar.com: 2014 Rocky Raccoon 100 Preview

2014 Rocky Raccoon 100 Preview

Rocky Raccoon 100The flat, speedy trails of the Rocky Raccoon 100 lure runners from all over the country to Huntsville, Texas this Saturday, February 1. Deemed a 2014 Montrail Ultra Cup race and the USATF 100-Mile Trail Championship, Rocky Raccoon is more than just a lot of miles on the trails. As part of the Montrail Ultra Cup, the top-three male and female winners will receive an automatic entry into Western States.

Whether watching the race mile-by-mile or in between your own run, stay tuned as Ian Sharman challenges his fellow runners to knock him and his course record off the board. And of course, keep your eyes peeled as the women push toward besting the now-eight-year-old women’s U.S. 100-mile trail record held by Jenn Shelton.

iRunFar will provide Rocky Raccoon 100 live coverage starting at 6 a.m. CST on Saturday morning.

Women’s Preview

Pam Smith - 2013 Western States 100

Pam Smith, newly running without toenails, will nub the line at Rocky Raccoon among the other top women. Smith’s 2013 was pretty stellar, capped off by her win (and ninth overall) at Western States (post-race interview, race report) and her 100-mile track world record at the Desert Solstice Invitational. This is her first attempt at Rocky Raccoon.

Michele Yates stated in a previous iRunFar interview that she’s on the hunt for the women’s U.S. 100-mile trail record at Rocky. This race’s course record of 14:57:18, set by Jenn Shelton in 2007, is also the women’s U.S. 100-mile trail record. Yates had a great 2013, being named UltraRunning’s Ultrarunner of the Year. Most recently we saw her dominate the women’s field at The North Face Endurance Challenge 50 Mile Championship in California in December. This woman may be hard to beat.

Nicole Studer, the impressive 31-year-old from Texas, will hope to continue her first-woman finish at every race, except one, where she placed second. She was the 2013 Rocky Raccoon women’s champion, running a swift 16:55:02. Accustomed to the Texas environment, Studer will be a tough competitor to outrun on her home terrain.

Coming off a third-woman finish at the Bandera 100k, Melanie Peters will be another top runner to look out for on the trails. This will be Peters’s second 100-mile race, yet her usual top-five placement in past races will be highly possible for this weekend.

Connie Gardner

The woman masters runner to look for on the trail is 50 year-old Connie Gardner. With more than 100 races completed, Gardner was the 2011 USATF Masters Ultrarunner of the Year. She has multiple Western States completions, a second-woman finish at the Badwater Ultramarathon, and recent first-woman place in the 24-hour category of the Desert Solstice Invitational.

Kara Henry, age 28 and from Colorado, is a rising name in the ultra world. She completed the 2013 JFK 50 Mile in third place with a 7:17:37 and had a top-10 finish at the 2013 Leadville 100 Mile. Now, with her name on the radar, her performance at Rocky Raccoon should be looked at a little more closely.

Kaci Lickteig is another young runner toeing the line this weekend from Nebraska. With an impressive string of previous performances such as two first-place finishes in Nebraska’s GOATZ Trail Runs 50k and the Market to Market 50k, Lickteig will bring the speed needed to keep her in the race. It appears that she hasn’t faced competition too often, with her most competitive race being the 2012 Moab Trail Marathon, where she was seventh behind Michele Yates and others.

Rocky Raccoon’s second-place finisher in 2013 with a time of 18:23:05, Shaheen Sattar will race this weekend. She also placed second at the 2013 Leadville 100 Mile. A look at her ultra results show that she’s been steadily improving the last couple of years.

Paulette Stevenson (née Zillmer), an experienced runner with many top placements as well as some middle-of-the-pack finishes, will race Rocky. In 2013, she ran to third place at both the Waldo 100k and Wasatch Front 100 Mile. With everything on track, Stevenson has the capability for a good race here.

Other women to look out for:

  • Larisa Dannis, who completed the race in 2011 with a time of 25:10:12. She was also the 2013 Vermont 100 Mile winner.
  • Julie Koepke may have some energy left over from her 12th-place finish at Bandera 100k.
  • Rachel Ballard, finishing just ahead of Koepke in ninth at Bandera 100k is returning to Rocky Raccoon in hopes of beating her 2013 eighth-place finish.

Men’s Preview

Ian Sharman - 2013 Leadville 100

Among the leaders will be Ian Sharman, who holds the course record of 12:44:33 from his 2011 performance, which was also the fastest trail 100 miler on American soil. Sharman was the 2013 Grand Slam of Ultrarunning winner and record holder, and he’s just coming off a tune-up win at the Crystal Springs 50k on January 11. He’ll certainly be on the hunt for another win and a shot at bettering his 2011 performance.

Escaping the freezing weather to run the race is Michigan runner Peter Hogg. A winner of the 2013 Ohio races, Mohican 50 Mile and Burning River 100 Mile. Hogg’s Burning River time was a speedy 14:25:14 and we think he’s a 2:32 marathoner, as well. Hogg’s race will surely find him among the top crew.

While Ryan Ghelfi will be aiming for his first 100-mile finish, he finished 2013 on a strong note, taking fifth at the UROC 100k before rounding out The North Face Endurance Challenge 50 Mile Championship’s top 10. Earlier in 2013, he was ninth at the Lake Sonoma 50 Mile.

Gary Gellin 2012 Chuckanut 50k

An early February run is on the 2014 schedule for runner Gary Gellin. Among his 2013 races are a win at the Mt. Tam Trail Run 30k in California and a 12th place at the UROC 100k. Gellin is looking to start 2014 off on a good, speedy foot. At age 45, Gellin also likely has the masters win on his mind.

Texas-native Steven Moore will surely use his home-state terrain to his advantage this weekend. Winner of The Wild Hare 50-mile race last November with a time of 6:50:33 and a frequent 100-mile racer, including his most recent win at the Mogollan Monster 100 Mile last September, Moore is also one to look for out on those trails. Moore is 46 years old, so we expect him to give Gary and the rest of the masters a run for their money.

John Cash, with at least six ultra wins in 2013, will be running his first Rocky Raccoon. He’s a member of the U.S. 24-hour team, which he was named to after running 140.41 miles at the U.S. 24-hour national championship at the 24 The Hard Way Race in Oklahoma last October.

The name Jason Lantz will also appear near the top of the pack. Due to his win at the 2013 Pinhoti 100 Mile and the 2013 Vermont 100 Mile, where he beat Ian Sharman by about 34 minutes, Lantz will be looking for another win to start 2014 off right.

Josh Katzman was the fifth-place finisher of the 2012 Rocky Raccoon, in 15:35:57. He seems to race primarily at the regional level, but he was 20th at the 2012 Western States. Hopefully he can remember the trail from two years ago to boost his advantage. [Update: We’ve learned that Josh Katzman isn’t racing this weekend. (Thanks, Michael McDuffie.)]

The youngin’ on the trails, Ford Smith, may not be well known, yet. This 17-year-old has at least five ultras under his belt in 2013. After a fifth-place finish at the Bandera 100k a couple of weeks ago, Smith is on his way to a good race. This appears to be his 100-mile debut.

Dave James, a double winner of the 2011 and 2012 Burning River 100 Mile in Ohio, is another guy to look out for during the race. For a guy who has completed over 50 ultras in nearly every state, the fast terrain and environment of Rocky Raccoon will be right up his alley. He’s had some injury issues of late, so we’ll have to wait for race day to see if he’s healthy.

Other men to watch for:

  • Timmy Parr finished seventh at the 2011 Leadville 100, and has since gone on to finish fourth overall in the Desert Rats Trail Running Festival 52-Mile Race in Colorado. He also finished 17th overall at the 2013 Hardrock 100.
  • Neal Gorman, winner of the Pinhoti 100 miler and 10th place at the 2012 Western States 100. Gorman was ill for a good chunk of 2013, so we’re eager to see if his previous fitness has returned.
  • Lorenzo Sanchez came in seventh at Rocky Raccoon last year with a time of 17:18:22.
  • Ian Torrence, a masters runner with a wealth of ultra experience, we expect him to be in the mix for the masters win. [Update: Ian Torrence informs us he isn’t racing. He’s been sick.]

Both Scott Wolfe and Andy Jones-Wilkins are listed as entrants, but neither are expected to race this weekend.